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	<title>Comments on: Why using the Minimal SharePoint Master Page is a bad idea?</title>
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	<description>Innovation Matters &#124; SharePoint Server MVP &#124; ISSN 2210-9390</description>
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		<title>By: Waldek Mastykarz</title>
		<link>http://blog.mastykarz.nl/minimal-sharepoint-master-page-bad-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-6811</link>
		<dc:creator>Waldek Mastykarz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 20:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ted, thank you for your comment.

The Minimal Master is meant to save some time. But if the developers forget to use the right doctype they will end up spending even more hours. While SharePoint will return immediately an error when you skip even one required Content Placeholder, there is no such thing for the doctype. It&#039;s definitely about the knowledge and understanding of what you&#039;re actually doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ted, thank you for your comment.</p>
<p>The Minimal Master is meant to save some time. But if the developers forget to use the right doctype they will end up spending even more hours. While SharePoint will return immediately an error when you skip even one required Content Placeholder, there is no such thing for the doctype. It&#039;s definitely about the knowledge and understanding of what you&#039;re actually doing.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Assur</title>
		<link>http://blog.mastykarz.nl/minimal-sharepoint-master-page-bad-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-6810</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted Assur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 20:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Waldek:

I always appreciate your posts. Keep them coming!

I agree with you about the DOCTYPE. As a devigner, I am very frustrated with developers just not getting it.

However, I don&#039;t see a better alternative for developers than to use a minimal master. Your post title implies it&#039;s a bad idea. I think it&#039;s really the best way, web developers just need to learn more about web standards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Waldek:</p>
<p>I always appreciate your posts. Keep them coming!</p>
<p>I agree with you about the DOCTYPE. As a devigner, I am very frustrated with developers just not getting it.</p>
<p>However, I don&#039;t see a better alternative for developers than to use a minimal master. Your post title implies it&#039;s a bad idea. I think it&#039;s really the best way, web developers just need to learn more about web standards.</p>
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		<title>By: Waldek Mastykarz</title>
		<link>http://blog.mastykarz.nl/minimal-sharepoint-master-page-bad-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-6802</link>
		<dc:creator>Waldek Mastykarz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 05:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Paul, thanks for the comment.

Using the right doctype is more important than many people think. It&#039;s not only a line of code in your Master Page. The doctype defines how the whole page should be processed by a web browser.
The Master Page I use contains a common set of controls we use in every SharePoint WCM project we work on. You could think of it as of an extended version of the community Minimal Master.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Paul, thanks for the comment.</p>
<p>Using the right doctype is more important than many people think. It&#039;s not only a line of code in your Master Page. The doctype defines how the whole page should be processed by a web browser.<br />
The Master Page I use contains a common set of controls we use in every SharePoint WCM project we work on. You could think of it as of an extended version of the community Minimal Master.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://blog.mastykarz.nl/minimal-sharepoint-master-page-bad-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-6800</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 04:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, is using the Minimal Master Page actually a good idea, as long as you use the right doctype? And why did you decide to devign (no typo) your own Minimal Master Page? Does it improve on the community version?
And where can I download it? ;-)
Anyway, thanks for the info.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, is using the Minimal Master Page actually a good idea, as long as you use the right doctype? And why did you decide to devign (no typo) your own Minimal Master Page? Does it improve on the community version?<br />
And where can I download it? <img src='http://blog.mastykarz.nl/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Anyway, thanks for the info.</p>
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		<title>By: Waldek Mastykarz</title>
		<link>http://blog.mastykarz.nl/minimal-sharepoint-master-page-bad-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-6787</link>
		<dc:creator>Waldek Mastykarz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 09:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hope so, mate! ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hope so, mate! <img src='http://blog.mastykarz.nl/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Wouter</title>
		<link>http://blog.mastykarz.nl/minimal-sharepoint-master-page-bad-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-6785</link>
		<dc:creator>Wouter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 09:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Waldek, another great post ;)
Learned it the hard way whaha.
Keep on posting, and who knows?
Maybe you will infect me soon with the blog virus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Waldek, another great post <img src='http://blog.mastykarz.nl/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Learned it the hard way whaha.<br />
Keep on posting, and who knows?<br />
Maybe you will infect me soon with the blog virus.</p>
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